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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:44 am 
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Yes, we usually set in dev the Version List we want to have in live. We do periodic updates in a bundle. So, when something will not be approved it'll be not in the update bundle and we'll switch back the test system to a former version in dev.


Well, part of the problem is also that we do not update in bundles, but make periodic updates when the customer approves an issue. That's why it often happens that we both have a change in an object that is ready for release and at the same time we are developing in that object.

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Well, I think then you have to tell them that they should not order changes to an object that has already been changed. Ok, I know that's sometmes a little bit hard but I really believe that this will end in a situation both parts can benefit from.


I totally agree with you on that one! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:13 pm 
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zeon wrote:
Well, part of the problem is also that we do not update in bundles, but make periodic updates when the customer approves an issue. That's why it often happens that we both have a change in an object that is ready for release and at the same time we are developing in that object.
Ok, I understand your point. We have a period of time (two weeks) right before the release of the next bundle update where no object will be changed. All users receive our last reminder email that they have to test and approve their ordered changes within the next two weeks. Otherwise these changes will not be part of the release.
So, in general the milestone date for the development team is different to the milestone date of the next release. All development that isn't ready to transport two weeks before the next release date will also not be part of that release.
And of course we have another workflow for urgent bug hotfixes. Those objects could be transported to test and to live alongside the release. We mark all of those objects by the Version List of the next release because they'll be part of the next release anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:11 pm 
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reijermolenaar wrote:
Hi,

I did once see something similar but it was not reproducible.

Does the reference remain when you press Ctrl+F5 (Refresh) on both where used cards. If so can you please send me the objects in text format?

Thanks.

Hi Reijer,

I moved that part of our solution to a NAV standard database and removed step by step all the things that aren't responsible for that bug. Now it's possible to reproduce it. Please try the following steps in a NAV standard database:
1. Create a new field within VLE (T25) of Type Code10 named "Field-Test".
1a. "Where Used" shows 0 Times Used.
2. Create a new table, PK doesn't matter. Create a new field within that new table, same ID and same Name than your field in VLE, but Type Boolean.
2a. "Where Used" still (after Refresh) shows 0 Times Used.
3. Create a new function within your new table, Name doesn't matter. Create a new local variable for that new function of DataType Record and Subtype "Vendor Ledger Entry". Write some lines of Code to that function. You have to use your new local variable and your Boolean field at least one time, e.g.
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VendLedgEntry.CALCFIELDS("Remaining Amount");

IF "Field-Test" THEN
  Description := 'Field-Test is TRUE'
ELSE
  Description := 'Field-Test is FALSE';

3a. "Where Used" still (after Refresh) shows 0 Times Used.
4. Create a new field within the Vendor Ledger Entries Form, paste your new field from step 1 in.
4a. "Where Used" shows (after Refresh) 2 Times Used. One line in the Drill Down Form refers to your new table which is wrong.

I hope this helps to analyse that issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:26 pm 
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Hi Einstein,

I did what you described but it doesn’t gives me the wrong reference.
Can you please send me (or post) the table in text format that you describe at step 3.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:33 pm 
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Here you go...
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OBJECT Table 50000 Field Test Table
{
  OBJECT-PROPERTIES
  {
    Date=27.04.11;
    Time=14:44:48;
    Modified=Yes;
    Version List=TEST;
  }
  PROPERTIES
  {
  }
  FIELDS
  {
    { 1   ;   ;Code                ;Code20        ;CaptionML=[ENU=Code;
                                                              NLD=Code];
                                                   NotBlank=Yes }
    { 2   ;   ;Description         ;Text80        ;CaptionML=[ENU=Description;
                                                              NLD=Omschrijving] }
    { 50000;  ;Field-Test          ;Boolean       ;Description=TEST }
  }
  KEYS
  {
    {    ;Code                                    ;Clustered=Yes }
  }
  CODE
  {

    PROCEDURE FieldTestFunction@1161020000();
    VAR
      VendLedgEntry@1161020000 : Record 25;
    BEGIN
      VendLedgEntry.CALCFIELDS("Remaining Amount");

      IF "Field-Test" THEN
        Description := 'Field-Test is TRUE'
      ELSE
        Description := 'Field-Test is FALSE';
    END;

    BEGIN
    END.
  }
}


I did it in an NAV 5.01 standard database.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:15 pm 
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No, I now used a fresh NAV5.01 database but still getting just 1 result.
Which version of the OMA do you use?

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:48 pm 
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Hmm... I'm not quite sure. How could I check it? In Version List there is OMA6.01.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:33 pm 
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Ah, that's why...
This is solved in version 7.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:02 pm 
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Hi,

we are using OMA 7.02. with our NAV 4.00SP3 database. OMA has been installed with the objetcts for NAV4.00SP2.
At the moment we are planning a technical update to 4.00SP3(5.0SP1).

What happens to OMA? Do we have to replace the OMA-objects with the OMA objects for NAV5.00?
Has anyone experiences with OMA + technical update? Is there anything else special to be considered?


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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 15-5-2011)
PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:49 pm 
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Hi,

Yes, you can import the "OMA7.02 NAV5.0" objects.
No need to upgrade or what so ever.

The number of the fob correspondents only with the version of your client.

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 16-5-2011)
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:34 pm 
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Hi everbody,

I hope somebody can help me again ](*,)

I am Using Object Manager Advance (Version 7.02) in a german Navision database.
Unfortunately objects are in englisch or dutch only and in the objects I received there are no names for controls etc.

For at least being able to do the setup I have change the language of the client to english. Otherwise all menue items are empty and forms can't be opened because of missing control names.
Now I found out, that OMA ist coming with a comfortable translation tool. =D>

That's why I tried zu "translate" the objects (englisch caption = german caption). I could already define a couple of rules --> a lot of the missing Captions could be calculated.

Afterwards you have to export the changes:
"When you are ready you export the changes you made by pressing the export button and save the translation file."

That's the point where my problems start: the exported Translation File always is empty (0KB) :-k

Can anybody help please? [-o<


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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 16-5-2011)
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:38 pm 
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Hi Caillean,

Only changed captions and names are exported from the Translation Tool.
Did you change a caption?

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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 16-5-2011)
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:48 pm 
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I didn't changed Captions directly. I Just defined some rules. I would like to export the calculated Captions.
Is there a special function to accept them as new caption?

Edit (just a couple of minutes later): Found the right Function: Functions --> validate Caption --> With Calcuilated Captions \:D/
Thanks for your helpful hint. Documentation seems a bit uncomplete at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 16-5-2011)
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:44 pm 
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Hi,
another day - another question:
I was trying out how modifications are locked with several setup settings. Now i would appreciate if i could do a roll back - and start witz modification entry No. 1 again.
I deleted the entries from Table 11102042 (OM - Modification) - but unfortunately the entry number can't be resetted this way.

Is there another way to clean up OM - Modification from my first tests?


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 Post subject: Re: Object Manager Advanced v7.02 (trial till 16-5-2011)
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:02 pm 
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Is it an SQL database?

Then you can search for:
http://www.google.com/search?q=reset+identity+sql

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